Around other protect educated ( at monterey pop festival the beginning lapse mode be what I needed to recall her. As you did, I would only consider using one with a trainer though. I am only considering this at the nomtnet would only use one as well as continuing with other methods or recall training. I have read alot about suing these collars but rather than just read about pros cons it would be more of a benefit to me to hear of peoples experiences I think it would work for interrupting a dog,but of course it depends on the type and position of the collar. if your dog was mid ,and very intent on chasing deer then a vibration would probably go unnoticed,however a bust or water work as it would be right up the dogs nose. How it would delay them for i wouldn't know,probably enough to get their attention with a toy and then to recall them. I suppose if you have tried other things and they haven't worked,it might be worth a try. I think it would work for interrupting a dog,but of course it depends on the type and position of the collar. if your dog was mid ,and very intent on chasing deer then a vibration would probably go unnoticed,however a bust or water work as it would be right up the dogs nose. How it would delay them for i wouldn't know,probably enough to get their attention with a toy and then to recall them. I suppose if you have tried other things and they haven't worked,it might be worth a try. I completely agree with you. I do think think that the success of a collar like this would depend on many things; the dog, the the situation as well as timing should I get a moment of interuption of the Maybe there are too many variables for it to be successful but this could also be said of timing for stopping a from starting far she has had little opportunity to hasn't become habituated to this but I do known that she would given half a do i rely eafgle eye for spotting deer or try a collar donl;t know what i want to do yet. I do known that I can recall her mid of her balls, redirect her chases recall her from birds but I am almost 100% certain that if it was a running hare rabbit deer then I would be unsuccessful I used one with Ziggy, who would run off to invade football A few sprays stopped her her tracks, and it is now much less of a problem. She'll now recall from her urge to run into football most of the time, before she gets close but I'll never trust her completely off-lead around them. Downsides? None, apart from that she's unchanged. Temperamentally she's sensitive, but not a fearful dog. She likes to please, and isn't very headstrong. I wouldn't use one on a timid dog, or on any dog that was close to other people or other dogs, case the dog thought they caused the aversive. Correct timing is essential. I wouldn't use the citronella, either. I used one with Ziggy, who would run off to invade football A few sprays stopped her her tracks, and it is now much less of a problem. She'll now recall from her urge to run into football most of the time, before she gets close but I'll never trust her completely off-lead around them. Downsides? None, apart from that she's unchanged. Temperamentally she's sensitive, but not a fearful dog. She likes to please, and isn't very headstrong. I wouldn't use one on a timid dog, or on any dog that was close to other people or other dogs, case the dog thought they caused the aversive. Correct timing is essential. I wouldn't use the citronella, either. Thanks for this. used to suffer alot from stress but is alot better now, seems very confident. She does like to please although can be a handful, is responsive has done well lately. even if I did use the collar I 't think I would ever get complacent with it assume it had 'cured' her instinct but more it would give me a better starting point should she start to At the moment I have if I stop the before it starts, if it starts then I have no despite the training we have put I am not being defeatist but realistic estimations Obviously a dogs eyesight is better than ours a way,they spot movement much easier than we do. And they detect a deer from very far away using their nose and they hear them too. I wouldn't use the collar as only tool,i would use toys and treats to keep the dogs attention and keep and eye out for deer that you wont have to use a collar. But event that you a deer,then if you have a collar you at least have some sort of back up. Is there any way you could use a line,if you 't all ready? Or redirect your dogs chasing instincts into chasing you rather than a ball. If you dog starts perusing a deer then explode with excitement and run away,if your dog hears they should you and not the deer. Or is